Amanda | LVV Travel

Amanda is an Aussie backpacker who loves adventure, waterfalls and everything outdoors. Together with her husband, Daniel, they have been travelling the world for over two years and run LVV Travel. They share travel and backpacking guides and aim to help backpackers travel adventurously and sustainably.

39 Comments

  1. chanaberk
    15 May 2018 @ 7:56 pm

    Great article, I appreciate when travel writers share the bad as well as the good. Keep up the great work and safe travels!

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    • nick jesty
      30 Jun 2018 @ 5:04 am

      Excellent assessment of Egyptian harrassment. You seem to be too nice a person to be able enjoy egypt where it is imperative that you take absolutely no notice at all of all the “offers” being made all of the time. If it is likely to get to you then don’t go.

      The country is fantastic , especially the Sinai, but the idea of “making a deal ” is inbred in the egyptian psyche.

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      • Amanda | LVV Travel
        1 Jul 2018 @ 4:19 pm

        Hi Nick. If by ‘too nice a person’ you are saying that I am a human being who expects to be treated with some decent dignity and respect, then perhaps I am. I am not sure that there is a person who would take “no notice” of this kind of harassment – even for people accustomed to it, I assure you, it is noticeable. I am also tired of the responsibility falling on the victim of harassment to be expected to ignore it. It’s a dangerous expectation because harassers are never held accountable and with your suggestion, NOTHING will ever change. Many unacceptable behaviours are inbred in psyches all around the world. This doesn’t mean that we should simply accept it and not speak up. Here’s a video I made that you should watch and I hope will shift your mindset, if only a little. https://www.facebook.com/lvvtravel/videos/633695166975795/

        I can only assume you didn’t read the entire article since I did specifically mention Sinai and that I still recommend travelling to Egypt:

        Every place has redeeming factors, and Egypt certainly has its own. Besides the Ancient Egyptian sites, the Sinai Peninsula is actually pretty rad and I absolutely love Dahab (this little coastal town). All of this being said, I still recommend travelling to Egypt

        Thanks for your comment though. I hope that you can appreciate that not every country has to be “fantastic” for every visitor and that this doesn’t mean people shouldn’t go. Harassment is never acceptable under any circumstance and telling people “don’t go” is the same sentiment as telling women “don’t wear this” or “don’t go here” or “don’t be alone” if you don’t want to get raped. It doesn’t deal with the problem, does it?

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  2. Elaine Masters
    13 May 2018 @ 9:21 am

    Wow. I’ve longed to visit forever. Glad I waited until I’m a boomer & somewhat out of the harassment age. Or that may be a naive assumption. Well written. Hope your friend in the hospital got good care.

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    • Amanda | LVV Travel
      14 May 2018 @ 10:52 pm

      Thanks Elaine. I do hope that you don’t experience what I did. Daniel is all better, thanks!

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  3. Viola
    13 May 2018 @ 7:41 am

    Wow very glad to read this honest post. I want to go to Egypt although it’s not high on the list right now. Thanks so much for sharing. Now I know what to expect. Sorry to hear you didn’t have a good experience 🙁

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    • Amanda | LVV Travel
      14 May 2018 @ 11:05 pm

      Hope you do go – great sites to visit. However, yes, now that you’re aware, perhaps it won’t be so bad. Amanda

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  4. Mirela
    13 May 2018 @ 6:04 am

    Hi, so sorry to read about your experience and thank you for the great tip: earplugs. I am looking forward to see how the new law will function, but is a huge step that the authorities acknowledged the problem. I was planing to see Egypt alone, but day by day my plans go to maybe have a packed vacation, really I don’t want to deal with all this mess and harassment. Such an useful post!

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    • Amanda | LVV Travel
      14 May 2018 @ 11:22 pm

      Yeah, it will be interesting to see how effective the new law will be. Definitely a great step forward. I think seeing Egypt alone would be fine (definitely in terms of safety) but yes, you’re likely to receive a fair bit of harassment.

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  5. Janine
    13 May 2018 @ 2:08 am

    What a great read. I want to head to Egypt and have definitely taken note of your experience. I am sorry to read that you were harassed and irritated. The comments received around the Pyramids is so typical. I felt like your story was mine from Istanbul. I hope that if you do any further travelling that you are not treated in this fashion and that Daniel is okay after being in the hospital.

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    • Amanda | LVV Travel
      13 May 2018 @ 2:53 am

      Hi Janine. Thank you so much. You should definitely still head to Egypt and I do hope that with the new laws, your experience will be a little different. You’re the first to mention Turkey actually. I haven’t been but will also keep that in mind. Daniel is all better now!

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  6. mayuri
    13 May 2018 @ 1:55 am

    I have never been to Egypt. But I want to visit just for the pyramids. Its a good article I will definitely keep these things in mind when I booked my trip to Egypt.

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    • Amanda | LVV Travel
      13 May 2018 @ 3:12 am

      Thank you. If you go, do please go to Luxor. The temples there are INSANE and personally, I found these to be far more impressive than the pyramids.

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  7. Carly | FearlessFemaleTravels.com
    13 May 2018 @ 1:05 am

    Yuck – when I went to Egypt I was constantly harassed, usually by the men working at the hotel where I was staying. Management refused to even acknowledge my complaints until I said, “I’m sorry, is management the wrong place to report harassment by hotel staff? Should I speaking directly with the Ministry of Tourism?” I’m sorry to hear that you had a similar negative experience!

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  8. Christie
    12 May 2018 @ 11:51 pm

    I’m sorry you had such a bad experience! I’ve heard very mixed things about Egypt. Like you said, the ancient and natural landmarks look beautiful, but the harassment seems so over the top. It sounds much worse than any of the experiences I’ve had in other places known for vendors who won’t leave you alone. Hopefully the new law will make a difference, because I would like to visit Egypt someday but am not keen on the scams and harassment there. Thanks so much for sharing your experience, and I hope you have a better experience on your next trip 🙂

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  9. Rowena
    12 May 2018 @ 11:14 pm

    The harassment part is why I hated Kathmandu. I was literally stalked and followed multiple times. It’s sad that in some cultures the women have to deal with this all the time. Glad you were safe!

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  10. Mexico Cassie
    12 May 2018 @ 10:29 pm

    Gosh. I haven’t been to Egypt since 2001 and it was pretty bad at times then but it sounds as if it’s much, much worse now. I suppose the revolution hasn’t helped at all. I’m sorry…I don’t disagree with a lot of what you’ve said… I remember being there with my friends and us walking in a line through the market so if the person at the front got touched, the last person could issue a quick elbow to the man as we walked through. It wasn’t ok then and it isn’t ok now. I did also find some incredibly kind people there who just wanted to help or get to know us. I think people who work in tourism can be incredibly pushy and often ruin an experience for visitors.

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  11. linziclark2013
    12 May 2018 @ 10:26 pm

    I worked in Egypt on one of the Nile cruise boats where I had similar harrassment experiences to you and non-stop pressure to promote the gold shop to guests which I refused to do – making me very unpopular! it is a real shame that the culture is so difficult as it is an amazing country with breath-taking sights.

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  12. Hannah
    12 May 2018 @ 10:16 pm

    WOW. I had the total opposite experience and actually loved Egypt when I thoguht I might feel like you do. I went with my brother in November, and we totally look alike so it was pretty obvious I was ‘available’ but I only had two incidents (and both were very much light-hearted jokes) about ‘how many camels’. I was actually shocked at how well I was treated as a woman and never felt objectified. I didn’t wear tight, revealing clothing but I didn’t dress local either.
    Cairo was shit for sure, so much harassment from everyone wanting us to buy. But I did barter for taxis and such ahead of time, or made sure they turned on the meter so wasn’t ripped off (at least not completely- I was happy with what I paid). But after Cairo everything was pretty easy. We did hire a professional guide for the main attractions because I’m a nerd like that and wanted the stories so I’m sure that made a difference. But we walked around and explore a lot on our own and most people just said ok when I told them no thank you.
    Just goes to prove gow everyone has very different expriences. I’m sorry yours was bad though because I loved my time there.

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  13. Kimmie Conner
    12 May 2018 @ 10:03 pm

    Ahhh I am annoyed just thinking about it! I hate when people just don’t give up. I would still like to visit egypt but I enjoyed reading your perspective!

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  14. Amanda
    12 May 2018 @ 9:36 pm

    And I’ll comment with an experience from the other side! I went to Egypt last year in November/December, and actually experienced far LESS harassment than I had prepared myself for. I think, though, that the fact that I was on a guided tour with a local guide helped a lot; many of the vendors would approach HIM, and then he would present us with stuff people were selling. I was approached more often by local school kids wanting to take selfies with me than aggressive vendors.

    The sexual harassment/comments are indeed indefensible, though, and I’m sorry you experienced that. I agree that the “but it’s their culture!” argument is crap; it’s not acceptable.

    But the vendors that bug you… I didn’t think they were that bad, but when I would really start to get annoyed, I reminded myself how much tourism has suffered in Egypt in the past few years. Many of these people are literally desperate. Our guide (who has been guiding in Egypt for 15+ years and would be considered quite well-off by Egyptian standards) told us about having to sell his car and a bunch of other things in the years after Egypt’s revolution just to be able to feed his family. I can only imagine how some of the less-well-off vendors fared!

    Just wanted to share my experience, since I think right now is actually a great time to visit Egypt for those who have always wanted to go.

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    • chanaberk
      15 May 2018 @ 7:58 pm

      I was thinking of your article on Egypt as I read this one! Was very interesting to see two sides of the same coin.

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  15. thegeniepants
    12 May 2018 @ 9:31 pm

    “Even when I post about the harassment on Instagram, there are women telling me that they’ve gotten used to it. We shouldn’t have to be used to it. Ever. My body was not created for your perverted eyes.” I have this thought all the time. There is a difference between respecting a more conservative culture and allowing harassment to become a normalised part of your experience. Never stop fighting against it because it’s never an okay thing, it doesn’t matter where you are in the world!

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  16. countdowntofridayblog
    12 May 2018 @ 9:23 pm

    Sorry to hear about the harassment you experienced in Egypt. You’re right that it’s something no one should have to go through, no matter what place they’re visiting. I would rather pay more to visit a place and have a less ‘touristy’ experience with cheap souvenirs, being ripped off on tours, and people in my face all the time. And it’s in a country’s best interest to keep their tourist sites authentic!

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  17. Kay
    12 May 2018 @ 9:23 pm

    It’s totally okay to not like a particular place, especially if you had a bad experience! Thanks for your tips!

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  18. Suzie
    12 May 2018 @ 8:41 pm

    It happens in too many places around the world unfortunately. As a tourist I hate being treated like a commodity rather than a person! So good about the new law though, hopefully that sorts them out a bit 🙂

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  19. Rachel Heller
    11 May 2018 @ 1:30 pm

    Sounds very familiar. I found a strongly-said “No!” without a softening “thank you” worked pretty well. I’ve also found, as I got older, that the harassment is distinctly less. You become practically invisible once you hit your 50’s.

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  20. Charlotte
    10 May 2018 @ 7:25 pm

    I’ve been wanting to visit Egypt for years and this is the exact reason I still haven’t booked the trip. My skin is very pale and my hair is very long and blonde so I just know I will get harrased a lot! And just like you mention above, I can’t stand it when people say it’s just their culture. No, what a load of crap!

    But then again should I let stupid people stop me from visiting a place I really want to see? I don’t know haha 🙂

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    • Amanda | LVV Travel
      12 May 2018 @ 8:26 pm

      I don’t think you should let it stop you. I don’t regret going at all and like I said, there’s nowhere else you’re gonna see what you can see in Egypt. I also don’t imagine that things will change anytime soon. Let me know what you do inevitably decide!

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  21. Leo & Carla
    9 May 2018 @ 11:35 am

    Oh no! Thanks for the story, great read. Cant wait to see more photos though. 👍

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  22. Megan
    9 May 2018 @ 9:46 am

    That sounds awful! Hopefully you’re enjoying the next place a lot more x

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  23. Donna
    9 May 2018 @ 8:46 am

    100% my experience when we went there as a family when I was 15, all these feelings were present! The “overwhelming” pyramids unfortunately did not make up for the highly tainted experience. Now when people tell me they are visiting Egypt I can’t help but feel sorry for them! Onwards and upwards gurl! xx

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    • Amanda | LVV Travel
      9 May 2018 @ 10:36 pm

      Ugh, I can’t even imagine having to go through this as a teenager!! Grosse. From some of the feedback, it sounds like it’s a love it or hate it kinda place as some people have been really surprised by my experience. Thanks Donna! x

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  24. Robert
    9 May 2018 @ 7:27 am

    Good story sis! Very interesting read.

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    • Ai-Mei
      9 May 2018 @ 8:20 am

      Loved this too! I have been thinking about visiting to see the pyramids and artefacts. Can’t wait to read the guides that you are going to share 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

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    • Amanda | LVV Travel
      9 May 2018 @ 10:52 pm

      Thanks Rob!

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